- SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE DRIVERS
- SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE UPGRADE
- SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE FULL
- SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE PRO
- SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE SOFTWARE
Along with the WinCC V13 SP1 pack came the addition of the Pop-Up Screen and Slide-In Screen features. This included updates to Step7 V13 SP1 and WinCC Comfort/Advanced V13 SP1, along with several others. In practice, it doesn't work that way at all.Earlier this year (January 2015), Siemens released their latest service pack for the TIA Portal V13. In theory, a customer can standardize on a version of Portal, and just use that one for a while without upgrading. The original release of Portal didn't have an Undo button, for goodness sake. I just find it a bit of an underhand way to run a business.
SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE SOFTWARE
Eventually (probably around v13 in TIA case) the software comes good and begins to work as it should. They release software that is slower / bug-ridden and then charge people for it and then, via a ratchet system of making it difficult to rollback they strong-arm customers into upgrading knowing that they have a large customer base who are tied to their products.
SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE UPGRADE
Most companies release new feature rich software and customers are encouraged to upgrade just because the new software is much better / faster / functional.
SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE FULL
However, I don't agree with releasing software that doesn't function as it should and then continuing to develop the software and increment it in full versions so that customers have to keep paying in order to get working software. I've also no arguments for companies charging for software development. Obviously, I've no argument in companies charging for software. They basically used their customer base as unwitting beta-testers. I'm simply saying that, in the case of TIA Portal, (IMHO) they released a sub-standard non-working version and charged people for each subsequent iteration. You're going to pay for it in the end.īesides, if software is free, then automation vendors pretty much lose the commercial relationship with many integrators who don't buy hw. Much appreciated :-)Īre you saying that you're surprised that product development costs money? Automation vendors can choose to just eat the cost of the software development, but then they have to make the HW cost more to balance it out. Something to do with the database in the background.Īs long as you aren't installing WinCC Pro, you're fine.
SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE PRO
Only one SCADA package from Siemens can be installed at a time (WinCC Pro v14, WinCC Pro v15, WinCC v7, WinCC v6, etc).
SIEMENS TIA PORTAL V13 SP1 THE PROJECT IS IN USE DRIVERS
SCADA and comms drivers will possibly be the final barrier that holds people from changing brands in an easier way to lighten the software cost over time.įor your original question, v14 and v15 can be side by side with no problem, with one exception. With Ethernet, all the infrastructure is the same and standard across all vendors. now, perhaps more than ever, other players in the market will give you the tools to work on their PLCs like B&R, Beckhoff.Īn even more interesting realization I had a while back is that everyone is jumping on the Ethernet bandwagon for fieldbuses not realising that they are taking down a barrier for replacement with other brands.īefore, you had a DH+ or controlnet field bus and changing the whole lot with whatever was the supported fieldbus from a manufacturer would add to cost and time to replace.
you can’t get past the operator without a contractĪs far as I can remember you had to pay for programming tools for the big players. The days of automation manufacturers giving away software is long gone I meet lots of Siemens customers in the PLC world and I don't remember *ever* meeting one who didn't feel like Siemens had an underhand sneaky way of forcing money out of them. I still remember WinCC Flex SP3 *deleting* Protool off your computer without expressly saying that was going to happen. And that forces everyone else to also upgrade. then offered a chargeable upgrade to v11 as a massive upgrade then that's fine.Įspecially if you can choose to upgrade or not.īut the way Siemens do their upgrades is very underhand. If they had released a fully working version of the software and added bits to it as v10.6 / v10.7 etc. Of course I understand that companies need to make money but it seems (as per my original post) that they have been charging their customers for software development. V14 was almost a re-write of the code as I understand it. But I think that was because they were essentially different applications. You're correct though that it was a welcome surprise when they released v14 and gave a 'free' v13 license as well. I'm still a bit annoyed at Siemens releasing this as v10.5 which was woeful and then charging to upgrade to v11 and then again for v12 and then again for v13. If I have a project that can’t be converted, just open in that version. I can’t believe they are trying to make money.
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